Transcript [00:00] Tucker Carlson got his clock cleaned by [00:04] US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabe. [00:06] Hi, this is Joel Rosenberg in Nashville. [00:08] Just came through the National Religious [00:10] Broadcasters Convention and the [00:12] Judeo-Christian Zionist uh Congress here [00:15] in Nashville heading to Washington next. [00:17] But I just want to give you an update on [00:19] what we're seeing as all Israel News is [00:21] reporting on uh you know the showdown. [00:25] It was actually a Titanic showdown [00:27] between Tucker Carlson and Ambassador [00:30] Huckabe. What was so interesting to me [00:32] is that Huckabe was calm, clear, and [00:35] convincing. He had his facts. He knows [00:38] his brief, and he systematically [00:41] exposed, dismantled, and then proved one [00:46] lie that Tucker Carlson was saying after [00:48] another. I mean, and it was dozens and [00:50] dozens of lies that Tucker said on the [00:53] podcast, which lasted more than two [00:55] hours, almost two and a half hours, [00:56] which was amazing. Um, Huckabe just [01:00] worked his way through it. And I want to [01:02] I want to share with you just a few of [01:04] the lies that Huckabe exposed. And uh, [01:07] you can go to All Israel News for more [01:09] of the specific details, but but [01:11] basically what you need to know is this. [01:12] First, um the biggest story coming out [01:16] of it so far is that uh Tucker Carlson [01:20] accused [01:21] Israeli President Isaac Herzog as being [01:24] um connected to a friend of uh uh the [01:28] sick uh sexual predator, sexual [01:31] trafficker Jeffrey Abstein, right, who [01:33] died in 2019 after being charged with [01:36] all kinds of federal sex trafficking [01:38] crimes. He had been convicted of other [01:40] crimes in the past in Florida. [01:43] Tucker Carlson [01:45] flatly stated that uh Isaac Herzhog had [01:49] been on what he called Pedto Island. [01:52] meaning the island in the Caribbean that [01:54] Jeffrey Epstein owned and would invite [01:57] people to and had all kinds of sexual [01:59] debauchery and all kinds of underage uh [02:02] young girls there that he traffked in [02:05] these girls, prostitution, massages, [02:07] just sick stuff. And what Tucker Carlson [02:11] did was accuse [02:13] it was barely even an accusation. which [02:15] is flat out stating that President [02:17] Herzog had been involved in all in well [02:21] at least had been to the island had [02:23] connection with Jeffrey Epstein and that [02:24] this was all known in the uh Epstein [02:28] files that have been released thus far [02:30] and that why wasn't Huckabe on top of [02:32] this? Why isn't Huckabe um confronting [02:36] uh President Herzog about why would you [02:38] go to Pedo Island as he called it? Why? [02:40] because of pedophilia of of of of [02:44] men work, you know, having sexual [02:46] relations with children under the girls [02:48] under the age of 18. And so a pedophilia [02:51] island that he calls Tucker calls it [02:52] pedto island. And and and and Tucker was [02:55] like prosecuting uh Huckabe or trying. [02:58] Huckabe is like, "Well, first of all, [02:59] this is the first I've heard of it, [03:00] Tucker. So you're asking me did I have I [03:03] confronted uh President Herzog about [03:05] it?" "No, I've never even heard of it. [03:06] It's not been in the Israeli press, not [03:08] been in the American press, not been in [03:09] the international press. I don't I've [03:10] never heard of this and I would be [03:12] surprised Huckabe said that someone of [03:15] uh Herzog's uh stellar reputation would [03:19] be involved in any of that. But he but [03:21] as Tucker kept pressing pressing [03:23] pressing pressing and with with such [03:25] judgment um that that how you know [03:28] Huckabe you know Ambassador Huckabe as a [03:31] father as a as a as a as a husband as a [03:34] as a Christian how could you not be [03:36] disgusted by this? How could you not be [03:38] uh confronting this? Uh it was it was [03:41] pretty relentless. And the ideal was it [03:43] was clear it was clear what the the goal [03:45] was. Tucker Carlson was trying to smear [03:47] the president of Israel as being [03:50] involved in this disgusting sick uh [03:53] Epstein sexual debauchery and pedophilia [03:56] and sex trafficking and that a Christian [03:59] Zionist like Ambassador Huckabe doesn't [04:02] even care. First of all, um, Huckabe [04:05] said to Tucker, "Uh, I've never heard of [04:07] this, but I will ask the president about [04:10] it." And he did. And immediately, [04:12] President Herzog's office issued a flat, [04:15] complete, sweeping, and very strong [04:18] denial. He said that uh President Herzog [04:21] had never even uh had any contact with, [04:23] doesn't know, never been to the island [04:25] for sure. There had been a a a [04:28] photograph that an uh that a British [04:30] reporter had put out there as part of [04:32] her reporting about uh the connections [04:35] between the alleged connections between [04:38] Herzog and Jeffrey Epstein. And this [04:41] woman uh this reporter had put out a [04:43] photo on her social media in which she [04:45] showed Herzog arm-in- arm with Jeffrey [04:47] Epstein on the island and with several [04:50] beautiful girls. Well, she has uh that [04:53] the reporter has since admitted and [04:55] apologized that that's an AI photo. It's [04:59] a fake photo. It has it's there's no [05:01] bearing in reality. And she admitted [05:03] this reporter admitted she never checked [05:04] her sources. She never did due [05:06] diligence. She did she just put it out [05:08] there and then she took it down and she [05:10] apologized. And that was weeks ago. [05:13] Okay, that was early February. So Tucker [05:15] Carlson came into this interview um [05:19] trying to make this allegation this and [05:21] and to make this smear stick. Herzog's [05:24] office would have none of it. He came [05:26] out hard and strong and and and [05:29] definitive. We've had absolutely no [05:31] connection. President has no connection [05:34] to absolutely ever. [05:37] And uh the statement that uh Herzog's [05:40] office put out just uh uh warned Tucker [05:44] that these this is this may be liable [05:48] and def uh defamation of character and [05:51] that the president office is considering [05:53] a lawsuit. This rattled Tucker. I've I I [05:58] can't really think of an example where [05:59] Tucker Carlson has been so rattled by [06:02] making such smears and allegations and [06:05] then having such a strong and definitive [06:08] denial that he it's clear he's actually [06:12] worried about a lawsuit now. So he put [06:14] out a video on his social media feed X. [06:17] He apologized. He he edited his video [06:20] and he took out that section of the [06:23] podcast with his um with the things that [06:25] he was saying against Herzog. When I [06:27] interviewed Ambassador Mike Huckabe in [06:29] Israel the the other day, I asked him [06:31] about the Epstein files, specifically [06:33] about an email the Department of Justice [06:35] released from December of 2014 from [06:38] Jeffrey Epste to his friendly on black [06:40] inviting him to his now famous island in [06:42] the Caribbean. And in that email, he [06:45] says lots of other people are coming [06:46] among them quote Herszog and Ahood [06:49] Barack. [06:51] And so I asked Huckabe, "Were you aware [06:53] that this email suggests that the [06:56] president, the current president of [06:57] Israel, Isaac Herszog, went to Epstein's [07:00] island?" And Huckabe said, "No, he [07:02] wasn't." And I asked him about it again. [07:05] So at the time I said that, there had [07:07] been news items about this. In fact, [07:08] there was a protest against Herszog on [07:10] the basis of this email when he went to [07:12] Australia recently, and he hadn't [07:14] responded to any of that. Well, now [07:16] we've received a long letter from [07:20] President Herszog's office denying that [07:22] he went to Epstein's out. In fact, [07:24] denying unequivocally that he had any [07:25] contact with Epstein ever. They didn't [07:28] know each other. They'd never emailed [07:29] with each other, never been in the same [07:30] room. They had no relationship of any [07:32] kind. I've gotten a lot of letters like [07:34] this over the years from people [07:36] alleging, "Oh, you got it wrong." But [07:37] rarely do you get a denial this [07:40] unequivocal. And so, for that reason, we [07:42] are taking it seriously. There's nothing [07:44] worse than impuging the reputation of an [07:46] innocent man. Um, and so I just want to [07:49] say clearly, I'm sorry to imply that I [07:54] knew something I didn't know. Of course, [07:55] I don't know that Isaac Herszog was on [07:58] the island. I was referring to that [08:00] email and the protest against him, but I [08:03] I don't know that. And I didn't mean to [08:05] suggest that I do know that. And I also [08:07] wanted to air his side of this. Again, [08:11] President Herszog says he's never had [08:13] any contact with Epstein ever. And so I [08:18] just want to say that in the interest of [08:19] honesty uh and transparency. Thanks. [08:23] >> And he's hoping that this will end it. [08:26] Will it? I don't know. I mean, I think [08:29] the president's office is really upset. [08:31] And I think we're gonna see whether [08:33] Herzog and his team accept the apology [08:37] and let it be that or decides no Tucker [08:41] purposely tried to liel and defame the [08:45] character of the president and put it [08:47] out there. Right? You know Tucker's uh [08:49] ex feed, his social media feed, his 17 [08:52] million followers, right? So when Mike [08:55] Huckabe, Ambassador Huckabe countered [08:57] and said, "I I don't know anything about [08:58] this. just doesn't sound like, you know, [09:00] the president I know, but I will find [09:02] out. How come he has 1.9 million [09:05] followers on X? So, and then there's [09:08] millions and millions of people that [09:09] have seen the podcast already on YouTube [09:13] and and on social media. So, the damage [09:15] of the lies have already been done. the [09:18] the question is whether the retraction [09:21] is enough uh to cause President Herzog [09:24] to [09:26] not pursue the uh the lawsuit. So, we'll [09:30] keep uh watching that and we'll report [09:32] on that at all Israel News. Uh there [09:34] were multiple other uh allegations. I [09:36] mean, uh, lies that Huckabe just [09:39] systematically exposed. And we'll um uh [09:42] let me give you another one uh just for [09:44] the moment. [09:45] Uh [09:46] Tucker claimed that he was manhandled, [09:50] mistreated at the airport in Israel um [09:53] as he was preparing to leave the country [09:56] and was hauled. That was the word he [09:58] used, hauled by security into a side [10:01] room and interrogated um questioned [10:04] about um his conversation with um with [10:08] um uh Ambassador Huckabe and and why he [10:12] was in Israel and so forth. Um the uh [10:16] somebody on social media was able to [10:17] exclusively release a clip of CCTV [10:21] footage from the airport. Uh Tucker, by [10:24] the way, flew in on a private jet. He [10:26] only spent about four hours on the [10:28] ground in Israel. Only at the VIP [10:31] terminal at the Israeli airport. Didn't [10:33] even enter Israel. Didn't even go uh and [10:36] and meet anybody else in Israel. Didn't [10:38] tour. Didn't meet with Christians. [10:40] Didn't meet with Jews. didn't meet with [10:42] anybody else. Just did the interview [10:44] with with uh with Huckabe. And the and [10:48] the video clip of the CT footage, it [10:51] shows Tucker's laughing. He's he's [10:53] hugging one of the security guys. [10:55] They're taking selfie together. And [10:57] Israeli officials adamantly deny that [11:00] anything happened like that. Huckabe's [11:02] team that was there, they adamantly deny [11:04] that any of that happened. and the fact [11:06] that Tucker was treated respectfully and [11:08] he was treated like everybody else [11:10] coming in and out of Israel. Of course, [11:12] you're asked questions. It's a country [11:14] that's been under attack directly for [11:17] eight decades, but specifically for the [11:19] last two and a half years. So, um that [11:23] was something that Tucker and his team [11:25] uh you know put those lies out even [11:28] before they released the video of the [11:30] interview. But at the beginning of the [11:31] interview, Tucker repeats these lies and [11:35] now they've all been de debunked um by [11:37] Huckabe, by the Israeli security [11:39] officials, by the Foreign Ministry of [11:41] Israel, by the Israel airport authority [11:45] um and by the video. So, those are two [11:48] examples. There's more um and but I just [11:52] want to give you these two, I think, for [11:54] right now to give you a sense of [11:57] there's something really wrong. I mean, [12:00] deeply wrong. Tucker Carlson says in the [12:02] video, "Hey, hey, I I'm not against [12:04] Israel." And Huckabe leans forward. You [12:07] hide that very well. Uh um Huckabe was [12:10] calm. He was composed. He was a [12:13] gentleman. He was a Christian gentleman. [12:15] Uh they talked about theological issues. [12:17] We'll get into that more um in our [12:19] reporting as well as well as here on uh [12:21] on YouTube. U but but Huckabe was not [12:25] rattled. He was not flustered. often [12:27] Tucker, you know, he attacks, he [12:29] attacks, he attacks, he challenges, he, [12:31] you know, and and and and sometimes like [12:33] with Senator Ted Cruz, uh he, you know, [12:36] Tucker rattled Cruz. There were times [12:38] that Cruz didn't really know how to [12:41] handle Tucker even though they've been [12:43] friends for years and that, you know, I [12:45] think the senator did an overall did a [12:47] good job, but but there were moments [12:49] that he did not do well. um uh like when [12:51] he forgot uh the actual passage in [12:54] scripture uh Genesis chapter 12 where [12:57] verse three where God says I will bless [13:00] those who bless you he's speaking to [13:01] Abraham and and and that that's a [13:03] promise that continues Abraham Isaac [13:04] Jacob and so forth the sons of children [13:06] of Israel [13:08] uh Ted Cruz at the time you know was [13:11] sort of pressed by uh Tucker you know [13:14] where's that verse where do you get that [13:15] from and and uh Cruz didn't remember [13:18] that you know the direct address of that [13:20] specific verse and and and Tucker's [13:22] challenges sort of mocks him. At one [13:25] point, Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson are [13:27] having a firefight. They're debating [13:29] over uh President Trump's Iran policy. [13:31] Ted Cruz sees Iran as a serious threat [13:34] the way Tucker used to years ago before [13:36] he started being an apologist for the [13:39] Iranian regime, for Hamas, for radical [13:42] Islamism, for the Qataris, and you know, [13:45] so forth. But in this in that case, I'm [13:48] contrasting uh how Ted Cruz did versus [13:51] how Huckabe did. And I like Ted Cruz, [13:53] don't get me wrong. He he did amazing in [13:55] that interview overall several months [13:57] ago. But when they were having this [14:00] fight uh you know on on on the podcast [14:03] on Tucker's podcast, Tucker presses him. [14:06] So how many people live in Iran? What's [14:09] the population of Iran? Cruz like you [14:11] know I don't know. And you know, Tucker [14:16] fains, you know, shock. He's like, "You [14:18] don't know. You don't you don't know. [14:21] You're advocating us to go to war with [14:23] Iran and you don't know the population [14:25] of Iran." He goes, "I don't know what it [14:28] is." I mean, you know, why is that [14:29] relevant? Uh, and so Tucker's like, [14:31] "It's 92 million." The reason I say it [14:34] is because in the firefight, as it were, [14:38] um, it wasn't really a firefight, but it [14:40] was an it was a pretty intense exchange. [14:42] just that Huckabe knew his facts and he [14:44] kept his cool and he's just a he's just [14:47] a just a solid uh ambassador. He is a [14:50] solid Christian. He knows his brief and [14:52] he knows the facts of the Middle East. [14:54] And so at one point Tucker Carlson is [14:56] pressing him and saying, you know, [14:58] there's more Christians in Qatar, [15:01] Tucker's new best friend that's been [15:02] paying him quite a bit of money that's [15:04] on public record. And Tucker is claiming [15:06] that Qatar has more Christians, almost [15:09] twice as many, he said, than Israel. And [15:12] Huckabe just won't have it. He's like, [15:14] "That's just not true. You're you're not [15:17] accurate, uh, Tucker. There are more [15:20] Christians in Israel than in Qatar." And [15:23] Tucker's like, "No, no, there's so [15:24] many." And so so Huckabe says at one [15:26] point, "All right, well, how many [15:27] Christians are there in Qatar?" And you [15:29] can just see the the panic suddenly, and [15:31] he's like, "Uh, you got me. I don't [15:34] know. I mean, I could go get my phone. [15:36] It's on my phone. I mean, I was just [15:38] there, but I but but the government told [15:39] me it's it's more. And Hakabe just walks [15:42] him through and he says, "Look, there [15:44] are [15:46] more Christians there in the sense that [15:48] foreign workers who are living there. [15:50] They live in a or they live in a ghetto. [15:53] These are service workers who who serve [15:55] the the Qatar economy. They're not [15:57] citizens. [15:59] In Israel, there's 184,000 Christians [16:02] who are citizens of the state of Israel. [16:05] In 1948, Huckabe notes there were about [16:08] 34,000. And now there's 184,000. And [16:12] these are citizens with full rights, [16:14] full protection of religious freedom, [16:16] right to worship, right to share their [16:18] faith, right to live their faith. And [16:20] Huckabe just knew his stuff and he [16:23] handled himself well. And it turned out [16:25] it was it was such a a reversal that um [16:27] that Hucker doesn't know what he's [16:28] talking about. He's just hurling [16:30] accusations. He's hurling lies, slurs, [16:35] innuendos. [16:36] He's trying to smear the Israeli [16:38] government. He's trying to smear the [16:39] American government. Um he constantly [16:42] was accusing Huckabe of basically not [16:45] being a good ambassador, of not of of [16:48] seeing his role as to to be supportive [16:51] of Israel, not to serve the American [16:54] people and the American government. And [16:55] Huckabe again was not having it. But it [16:57] was an interesting exchange because we [17:00] really saw Tucker's heart. It is filled [17:03] with malice against Israel, malice [17:06] against Jews. He doesn't he he's also [17:09] he's got malice against Christians. He [17:10] claims to be a Christian and he claims [17:13] to care for Christians but he doesn't [17:15] understand the level of persecution and [17:18] difficulties that Christians foreign [17:20] workers who live in Qatar uh they can't [17:23] wear a cross they can't their churches [17:25] can't uh can't show a cross they can't [17:28] read the scripture in public they can't [17:29] pray in public they can't share their [17:30] faith in public and they can do all of [17:32] that in Israel and their citizens I'm [17:35] one of them and um so a lot more to go [17:40] into, but I just thought uh because we [17:41] haven't even gotten into the issue of [17:43] Christian Zionism. What's a Christian? [17:46] What is Zionism? What is a Christian [17:48] Zionist? Those were big elements of this [17:50] conversation. But I just wanted to give [17:52] you a sense of what this podcast [17:54] revealed. If you have the stomach for [17:57] it, watch the whole thing. It runs about [17:59] 245, 2 hours and 45 minutes, but the [18:01] first 20 minutes to a half an hour are [18:03] Tucker just setting up a series of lies [18:07] and how he was badly treated in Israel. [18:09] I mean, it just it's just such nonsense, [18:12] but uh Hakabe handled it so well. And [18:15] the facts are important and the fact [18:17] that Tucker was so rattled and really [18:20] didn't know his stuff was kind of kind [18:23] of fun to watch. Pray for Tucker [18:25] Carlson. Um yes, he's doing a tremendous [18:29] amount of damage against Israel, against [18:32] Jews, against Christians, and he's [18:34] attacking President Trump. He says he's [18:36] not, but he is. He he hates the policy [18:39] of Trump uh in the 12-day war last year [18:41] to neutralize and get rid of the Iran [18:44] nuclear weapons program. Why would that [18:47] bother him? Uh he had claimed Tucker [18:49] claimed last year that 20,000 Americans [18:51] would die, but no American died. No one [18:54] American even got injured last year. So [18:55] I just say these things because Tucker's [18:58] not well, right? He's wrong. And he's [19:02] causing a lot of damage because he has a [19:03] hu he's he's he's the Goliath right now [19:05] of anti-Israel social media presence. 17 [19:08] million followers on Twitter alone X [19:11] alone. That's not going to win. It's not [19:15] going to prevail. [19:17] But his soul is in danger. I mean I I [19:20] and I say that I'm not that's not a [19:21] threat. That's that's I I'm genuinely [19:23] worried for him. And I ask you to pray [19:25] for him and for his family and for his [19:27] colleagues. [19:30] He used to be pro-Israel. He used to be [19:32] against the Iranian regime. He used to [19:36] he used to be a a great defender of [19:38] President Trump and the Trump agenda. [19:40] Um, [19:42] and something has flipped. Something has [19:44] changed. And everybody I talked to that [19:45] knows Tucker and has been friends with [19:48] him for years. I've I know a lot of [19:50] people. I don't know Tucker personally. [19:51] I've met him, you know, years ago, but I [19:53] don't know him. No, I we've never spent [19:54] any time talking. [19:56] But his friends that I talked to, they [19:59] don't know what's happened to him [20:01] genuinely. It's not like I they've told [20:03] me and I'm not telling you. I mean, they [20:05] don't know. So, please pray. Uh he's a [20:09] neighbor. Maybe you see him as an enemy. [20:13] But he claims to be a follower of Jesus [20:15] Christ. He's said that he's just read [20:17] the Bible through all the way through [20:19] for the first time last year. So he's if [20:21] he's a true follower of Jesus, he's [20:25] very ignorant of the scriptures. He's [20:27] not been well discip he's not been [20:28] discipled. He's he said he has said [20:30] publicly and repeatedly nobody has [20:32] taught him the Bible. He doesn't go to [20:34] ask people for counsel. So it's it's a [20:37] it's a real problem. And I think he has [20:40] gotten fixated, obsessed with Israel, [20:43] Jews, and Christians that love Israel [20:45] and the Jewish people based on the [20:48] Bible. It's a problem. And please pray [20:51] for them. From Nashville, from the [20:53] National Religious Broadcasters [20:55] Convention right here that we've been at [20:57] all week, this is Joel Rosenberg for All [20:59] Israel News.
